Wednesday, December 18, 2013

Fwd: Air Force expert on Benghazi

And for those still on the political fence about party affiliations, now hear this - - from a WW 2 pilot  (P-40s & 51's and a lot of time in Gooney birds)   I recall that we had a C-130 in Tripoli. C-30's share the quality of other birds, they are found in flocks. If there was one in Tripoli, it is my bet there were several in Tripoli, complete with aircrews. Now with all respect to the better fighters, that could have been on scene from wherever, much quicker --But one these C-130's could have have been airborne within twenty min's.  Last time I flew that region, I recall the distance from Tripoli to Benghazi was about 120 or 30 nautical mi.   Never flew a C-130 but betcha it does at least 210 or 20 kts.   Maybe 1/2 hr to Benghazi.?   To tell me that wasn't possible in a combat situation for a C-130 to respond in time  is complete BS.   Bad enough we have inept political leadership. Worse yet to have complete liars at the helm. - - and a woman gets on the tube for 1 week after the world and the white house  occupants knew this was a well equipped  militia attack at Benghazi and no ordinary rebellious citizenry complaining about a nonexistent, yet to be identified video - YouTube - whatever.   I wonder, that not one single newsman hasn't ask her some embarrassing questions about that brilliant act.    Add up the failures by this administration and one soon begins to wonder when we should consider impeachment proceedings.      Harry

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Subject: Air Force expert on Benghazi

If nothing else, by reading this you will now know why the military is so
screwed up today. Military leadership has been subjugated by this president
to be nothing more than political hacks and yes men. God help us all.


Air Force expert on Benghazi

"Hands" Handley is a well-respected USAF fighter pilot. Here is his short
resume of accomplishments.

Colonel Phil "Hands" Handley is credited with the highest speed air- to-air
gun kill in the history of aerial combat. He flew operationally for all but
11 months of a 26-year career, in aircraft such as the F-86 Sabre, F-15
Eagle, and the C-130A Hercules. Additionally, he flew 275 combat missions
during two tours in Southeast Asia in the F- 4D and F-4E. His awards include
21 Air Medals, 3 Distinguished Flying Crosses, and the Silver Star.

Here is what Col. Handley wrote in response to Panetta and Dempsey's claims
there was no time to send help to Benghazi .


Betrayal in Benghazi
Phil "Hands" Handley Colonel, USAF (Ret.)

The combat code of the US Military is that we don't abandon our dead or
wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter pilots don't run
off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot down, still alive and
not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to get him or die trying.

Among America 's fighting forces, the calm, sure knowledge that such an
irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with individual faith and
personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often sustained hope in the
face of terribly long odds.

The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEALs who
fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of

Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in
the aftermath was an outright lie in an attempt to shield the President and
the Secretary of State from responsibility.

It has been over eight months since the attack on our compound in Benghazi .
The White House strategy, with the aid of a "lap dog" press has been to run
out the clock before the truth is forthcoming.

The recent testimonies of the three "whistle blowers" have reopened the
subject and hopefully will lead to exposure and disgrace of those
responsible for this embarrassing debacle. It would appear that the most
recent firewall which the Administration is counting on is the contention
"that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in
time to make a difference" mainly due to the unavailability of tanker
support for fighter aircraft.

This is simply BS, regardless how many supposed "experts" the Administration
trot out to make such an assertion.

The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was
half-way around the world, you don't just sit on your penguin ass and do

The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as
near as Aviano Air Base , Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.

Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in
Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him
"Greg, we are under attack!" (his last words), Hicks immediately notifies
all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing
"Emergency Response Plan."

At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is
told to "stand down". By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound
and streaming live feed to various "Command and Control Agencies" so
everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on.

At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in
Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking
mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct
hit at 4:00 AM.

So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker
support really "was not available" what about this:

When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air
Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the
launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare
for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.

By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20
MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical
miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight
lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio
frequencies to use.

The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377
nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which
would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.

Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner
at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, a few well
placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.

Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to return to Sigonelli after
jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at
Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away.

As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances,
border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political
correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act -- screw them. It is time
our "leadership" get its priorities straight and put America 's interests

The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the
attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with "72 virgins" and a clear
message would have been sent to the next worthless POS terrorist
contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to
"tug" on Superman's cape.

Of course all this depends upon a Commander In Chief more concerned with
saving the lives of those he put in harm's way than getting his crew rested
for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. It also depends
upon a Secretary of State who actually understood "What difference did it
make?", and a Secretary of Defense who was watching the feed from the drone
and understood what the attack consisted of instead of making an immediate
response that "One of the military tenants is that you don't commit assets
until you fully understand the tactical situation."

YGBSM! ( You Gotta Be Shittin' Me)

Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand
down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from
office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces
of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does "have
their back" when the chips are down.

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